Ich oder wir? - Individualismus vs. Kollektivismus

Wird ins Deutsche übersetzt…

**The price of the event is 1000 HUF.** **Recommended to pay [here](https://revolut.me/istvn7xh8?currency=HUF&amount=100000&note=20261112%2C%20%5Byour%20Meetup%20name%20here%5D)** instead of through Paypal to avoid additional costs. **Scroll to the bottom for more payment info!** ***Are you the author of your own life, or a thread in a larger fabric?*** Western culture says "be yourself." Many Eastern traditions answer that yourself is made of the people around you. Both sound wise until they collide: your father breaks the law, a mandate overrides your choice, or a dream job means leaving your ageing parents behind. Join us for a friendly, structured argument (not a lecture) where these two great ideas of how to live go head to head! Voices we'll bring to the table: **John Stuart Mill**: Over your own body and mind, you are sovereign. **Immanuel Kant**: Grow up intellectually and dare to think for yourself. **Confucius**: You become fully human through your relationships, and harmony does not mean sameness. **Fei Xiaotong**: Chinese society is ripples around the self, Western society is bundles of sticks. **Yang Zhu**: an **ancient Chinese thinker who, by the words of Mencius, "wouldn't give up a single** hair to save the world". (So "East = collectivist" isn't necessarily true!) **Karl Marx***: The* human essence is the sum of our social relations. **Amartya Sen**: "Asian values" isn't one thing, and no tradition is monolithic. **What to expect**: - A short introduction of both directions. - A silent vote at the start and a revote at the end, to see who changed their mind - Debates about impossible dilemmas, such as: - Could you be "you" if you grew up with no community at all, or is your self made by others? - If you could erase every inherited obligation, would you be freer or just emptier? - Is your success your own achievement, or a debt to the people and society that made it possible? - Is harmony still harmony if it's kept by staying silent about injustice? - When does sacrificing for your family become exploitation of you? - Is any choice truly "self-regarding" in a connected world, or is Mill's line an illusion? - Should schools teach children obedience first or independent judgment first? - Is placing an ageing parent in a care home a betrayal or a loving, rational choice? - Which failure is worse: a lonely society where no one owes anyone anything, or a tight society where no one can leave? - Designing a society for your own children, which of the two values would you be most afraid to give up? No philosophy background needed, only curiosity and an open mind. **The price of the event is 1000 HUF**. Recommended to pay **[here](https://revolut.me/istvn7xh8?currency=HUF&amount=100000&note=20261112%2C%20%5Byour%20Meetup%20name%20here%5D)** instead of through Paypal to avoid additional costs. **Include your Meetup name in the comment of the Revolut payment!** As soon as the payment arrives, you'll be added to the event as participant!